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Show Notes

In this episode, I take you on a coregulation walk through a snowy April evening in Anchorage — inviting you to walk alongside me (physically or in your imagination) as we explore how movement, noticing, and connection can shift our nervous systems.

We start with a simple idea: noticing as a practice. Tuning into small details in nature — light, texture, shapes — can create meaningful shifts in how we feel and how we experience the world.

From there, we move into a gentle guided walk: feeling your feet, finding your pace, and imagining what it’s like to walk with a good listener. You’re invited to share what’s on your mind, notice your surroundings with curiosity, and let small moments of delight land in your body.

Along the way, I share stories from past adventures — including a slower, more adaptive backcountry trip — and reflect on how we might approach this upcoming summer with more intention and support.

This episode is an invitation to slow down, notice more, and take one small step toward connection.

Timestamps

00:00 — Introducing the coregulation walk
01:00 — Spring light + seasonal energy
02:30 — Noticing as a practice
05:00 — Invitation: what do you want to learn or practice?
06:20 — Walking physically or in imagination
08:30 — Summer Strong + seasonal transition
12:15 — Guided walk begins
13:00 — Finding your pace + feeling your feet
14:40 — Imagining a good listener
15:00 — Sharing what’s on your mind
18:30 — Noticing your environment
20:00 — Finding small delights
21:30 — Storytime: walking + sharing
25:00 — 2022 trip + slowing down
30:30 — Adapting when things don’t go as planned
33:00 — Bear encounter
36:00 — Trust + relationship with nature
38:15 — Moose encounter
41:00 — Summer reflections + intention
42:40 — Future offerings + ideas
44:00 — Check-in: how are you?
45:00 — Grounding + feet
46:00 — Noticing something delightful
47:00 — Sharing awe + connection
50:00 — Closing

Resources

- Get all the information about Summer Strong here! 

Submit your questions for the Q&A [here]

Photos and links from this episode:
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Transcript: 

Sarah 0:03
For this episode of CO regulation conversations, I have planned to go on what I'm calling a somatic walk with you. So if you would like to participate in this with a walk, I plan to spend this first little bit with some announcements, and oh my gosh, I'm walking past a spot in the trail where people made a bunch of snow angels. That's so fun. Okay, I gotta hold on. I gotta take a photograph of this for you, because it's just delightful, and then I'll be back. I am back. You gotta go look at that picture. I am here in April in very snowy Anchorage. It's 8pm and I'm out for a walk at sunset. It's wild. How much the light has changed here in the last couple of months, we went from having such little light to having so much, and it happens really fast. So we're all feeling, I don't know if all is right, but many of us are feeling a little bit something a little bit manic, maybe, or just like full of energy. Wow. Another beautiful I just came across, so I've been really nerding out about watching the shapes in the snow as they melt. As it melts this spring, it just ends up in the wildest little snow sculpture configurations, and it's really delightful. And I realized while I was out doing that today, which, by the way, I'm seeing some right now that I have to stop and document before I can keep going with this conversation so we can, like, share them. There are these. There's, like, a log on it's with an angle, and it's got one that looks like a bear on it, and, like, kind of an arrow thing. And then it's kind of like looking at the clouds, seeing what comes and then there's this kind of, I don't know what happened here, but there's a bunch of snow on one tree, like a spruce with its an older, maybe younger spruce with lots. Anyways, it's holding a lot of snow close to the ground, and there's a heart that's melted into it. It's perfect. Okay, I'm gonna come right back. So the thing I realized is that this is one of my superpowers. One of my superpowers is noticing things details or shapes or like, noticing things in nature. This is something that I do in a lot of environments, and it's, I mean, I'm in a really good one right now for it, but and not every environment has this level of like things to get really excited about noticing. But even I think, what I want to say here is that I think we could all practice this. This, I think it's a talent personally, but I also think it's a practice, and I think I can help us all get better at it and notice things even more intentionally. My theory here is that in some ways, you're already doing this, so you know how to do it already, and I think I can help us all amplify what we're doing. And through that, I think we'll notice some significant changes inside our bodies, in our nervous systems and in when you change the state of your nervous system, you change how you perceive the world. Basically, it changes kind of everything. So the power of that is big. So I think if this, if this is something you'd be into, I would love to hear about it, because I have multiple ideas of next project swirling and it would be helpful to hear what it is that you want, what it is that like, What's What are you missing, skill set wise, or what do you want to be in practice of, if we could, like, come together inside of some kind of you.

Sarah 5:01
A class or practice or what I mean? What do you want to learn from me? Would be another way to say that, and is this idea of a noticing practice in the summer, as far as noticing things in nature, learning to notice things more. Just notice things more. Maybe, maybe there's a period there. I does that sound like a fun way to spend the summer? I think it might be, and might have some good like ripple effects out into our lives and world, which would be sweet. I'm always thinking really big with my these kind of dreams. So Happy Aries season to my double Aries, Sun and Moon. How?

Sarah 6:04
Yeah. Okay, so that's one announcement, I guess, initial announcement, and then I have my second announcement, and then let's do a co regulation walk. So hopefully you're either out walking by now or you're getting closer. And I gotta say, too, if you don't want to walk and but you do want to listen to this, you could, you could always do the physical stuff that I'm inviting you to with my work, maybe in all, maybe all different many I think this applies to a lot of different situations that I might be coaching. But you can do the walk with us in your imagination too. You could basically do all somatic work in your imagination if you don't want to do it on with your physical body and the results are often very similar. Sometimes they are more it's more impact, impactful on a nervous system level, to do it in your imagination. So I know when I learned that, it blew my mind totally, because I thought somatic work was all about doing body. Oh my gosh. Hold on. I gotta show you this. Okay, I couldn't figure out how to photograph that one because it was at the it's like, behind a tree, but it was a stump that has a ball of snow on it that's like, off to the side, off, kind of like hanging off the side of it. And then out of that ball of snow, which is over, like hanging off over the air, there's a big, long icicle sticking out of it. So doubt, like dripping down, and it's probably like a foot and a half long, maybe, yeah, it's long. It's over a foot, for sure. So I think that the snow wall has been melting in the sun, and it's been dripping and creating an icicle, which is amazing. Okay, so second announcement, Oh, this must be happening a lot over here. I'm seeing another kind of one, like that snow with icicle, yeah, cool. I love nature and spring, so I am launching summer strong right now, which means that the fitness is on my mind, getting like ready for trip. Summer trips is on my mind. We're booking our backcountry trip for the summer in June, which is not that far away at all. And I some of what got me out for a walk today, because it's like, I gotta start walking. Because summer really does use our bodies differently, especially for those of us in wintry places. In the winter, if you're in like, snow, snow gear, or ski boots, or, you know, the rigid kind of footwear Your feet are working differently. And then the other thing that happens is that we're generally sliding in the winter on skis and on skates and things, and so we are transitioning to a season where you're trying not to slide that much. Guess, unless you're biking maybe, or boating. Does that count as sliding? Anyways, the deal is we do need to get our body working a bit differently here. Year and treat this time as a transition physically as well as one that's happening with our gear and our environment. So that's what I'm thinking a lot about these days. I'm thinking about who might want to come be a part of that this year, and who's, who's a part of the 2026, summer mind and mountain season. And so if that's you, chop, chop, get in there. It's we got to get going. Yeah. Sign up anytime. Get Started anytime or with the cohort on April 13. It's really a fun way to gear up with summer and, like spring energy too. And so I, yeah, I would love to get a bunch of people in

Sarah 11:01
there for this first spring round, right off the bat here, which is like, middle of April through the end of May. Because to me, that's like, that's like, Get get right with with summer. You know, get right with spring 2026 get your energy right. Get your like head in the game. Get your like, let's get this figured out. Like for the Wow, beautiful. It just came around the corner. It's super beautiful. Yeah, just really pretty, almost the very beginnings of alping glow on these the snowy, two thatch mountains that are right in front of me, and I'm in kind of a field where it's snowy and open and I get a good view. And so I took a video for you, and I hope it's not too annoying to have these little interruptions for beauty moments. I imagine that if we were here together, we'd be like looking at them together, which would be pretty fun to be doing. So maybe that is our transition to our CO regulation walk and, yeah, it's nice to be out on a walk with you.

Unknown Speaker 12:38
Yeah, see what it's like to find our pace, and

Sarah 12:51
we can just let the pleasure of some motion happen. We're

Unknown Speaker 13:04
a feeling the heat your feet on the ground and the way

Speaker 1 13:16
that your joints move your ankles and knees and hips, spotting shoulders, head and Neck.

Unknown Speaker 13:39
Notice how they get a chance to move and maybe

Sarah 13:47
slow down a notch and see what it's like to really notice your feet. You

Unknown Speaker 14:04
and if there's a way that that kind of connection feels nice, i

Sarah 14:31
Yeah, and maybe that stays in your conscious awareness, or maybe It's just now in your body. But I'm also imagining

Speaker 1 14:43
that if we were walking together, it would be like, tell me what's going on with you. What do you want me to know about your life?

Sarah 14:54
And we're totally simulating this, you know. So it's a very much an experiment, but. I wonder what it would be like to hit pause for a bit and just see if there's anything you want to like get off your chest and you could say it and send it

Unknown Speaker 15:19
to you. Yeah, I don't know. See if you if there's

Sarah 15:25
a sense for some way, somewhere that those words would want to go, like, do they want to come to you know, are we imagining that everyone who's listening to this podcast is like, sitting, some are like, somehow connected, and we have a bowl of or like a place we collect everyone's words in the middle, and somehow we just like, trust that we're all holding that and receiving it, even if we don't know the exact words might work, kind of an imagination and practice. It's a magical use of the image channels, we call it, which often does have a way it lands in the body or the nervous system, not necessarily for everyone, but if that idea lands for you great, or if there's a sense for wanting to send it to your I don't know your grandma, if she was a really good listener, or a favorite tree. Or, you know, you can, you can do kind of you can do anything you want with your imagination channel. So if you want to and then make that connection happen, and then hit pause and like, spend some time, just like, sharing what's on your mind, like the way you would if you were out for a walk with a good listener.

Sarah 17:12
Okay, so I'm going to imagine here that you're back or that we've just been catching up a bit on our energetically. Or maybe you skip that part, which is totally fair. It is a little out there, I have to admit. And as someone that has some like healthy skepticism in my lineage and raised, like, academically minded than stuff more than mystical. The thing, I guess, I maybe always had, like, some sort of sense of stuff happening in that realm.

Unknown Speaker 17:57
But the thing that really like, locked it in for me, as far as, like, real true belief was

Sarah 18:05
just being kind of open to the idea of it and then noticing the impact in my body. So you get to get to just see if it really does land in that way for you test it as it goes by, noticing what the impacts are on your system. Okay, so, yeah, from that place of having, like, caught up and shared a little bit of what you needed to share. The next thing I'm curious about is what you are seeing like right now, I'm seeing two really unique things in this forest that if we were walking together, I'd love to show them to you. So I'm curious what you're seeing. Have you or are you right now, if you just like, look around with the kind of open eye gaze and see what like the idea of curiosity around what do you notice?

Unknown Speaker 19:33
And see if you can just Yeah, find some things

Sarah 19:41
that are interesting about where you find yourself,

Sarah 19:50
like a color that's catching your eye, or a quality of light, or something unique, or something beautiful. I. A shape or a texture or a joke, a sound. There's so many types of things, you know, if we're looking for a little delights, in some ways, the smaller, the better. I we're

Sarah 20:24
kind of breaking the habit of looking for grandiose things to impress us with, and building a habit of being delighted by little things too. They do have an impact on the body when we are practiced at this.

Sarah 20:50
And from here, I wonder what it's like just to enjoy the shared rhythm here of walking together,

Unknown Speaker 21:12
moving through space and time. I'll tell you a story that

Sarah 21:23
I've been thinking about.

Sarah 21:31
Well, this first one has nothing to do with anything, but I'm just imagining that we're out for a friend walk. And so one thing I'd be sharing is that, excuse me, I am starting a movement on so far, just on Instagram, but we'll see. I have a new favorite layer of puffy shorts that my friend Hannah introduced me to. Hi Hannah, and there don't make them anymore, so I did some deep dive Googling and found a pair, and have been wearing them this winter. And they're kind of like short

Speaker 1 22:14
shorts or like booty shorts, puffy. They keep the important parts warm

Sarah 22:23
and the legs get to move really freely, which is one of the things that's hard about a puffy skirt. So it's sometimes a little bit restrictive for movement. And when you're when you're doing well, especially for me, it's been skate skiing. But I know for people that have, like harnesses, ski drawing, okay, have weighed in saying they want them to or trying to, I would love to see a manufacturer, or maybe a local crafts person start making these so starting a movement you can join. They're really cute. They're flattering too. Is that's part of the fun and very functional. It's the best of both worlds. And so that's one thing. And then I also have been doing some writing about summer strong and thinking about the ways and planning our summer trip in the Arctic. And just an aside on that trip, I am also thinking as regards to trips these days about ways to make the trip also have a meaningful intention of some sort, especially in the these times when there's so much at stake for wild places and the Arctic in general, and, yeah, all of that. So I'm like, trying to think about how to go, like, bring an intentionally, like advocate lens to this trip, and so maybe it'll be around the Ambler road corridor. Which I would love that project, to see that project stopped. But you know, so much of the Arctic is at risk this summer, this summer, more than that, this administration and beyond. Anyways, do you want to be a part of that too? Let me know please, if you are wanting to thinking about similar things, and maybe we can think about how to do that together somehow organize more people to be a part of it. That would be cool. I. Um, so summer trips. I was just writing the story about the summer of 2022, where we were. I was in like the midst of fertility, journey times and taking a little bit slower pace of things. And I still want to do a trip we both did, but I had, had, had needed been, needing to, like, not be as, like, sporty over the winter before that, and I hadn't really been feeling like it either, because hormones make you feel all sorts of ways. But yeah, I wasn't that into doing a bunch of sporty stuff, either, and just feeling like my energy was going in a different direction, so hadn't been training much, wasn't feeling super strong, wasn't feeling that good in my body or my mind, for that matter. And so, you know, the other thing that was happening in that time was that, because I was slowing down athletically, I was having kind of an identity crisis around that, which is no laughing matter, if you've lived that, I think most of us have to contend with that At some point, and it was also exposing the weaknesses in my like mental health strategy, because it like I was definitely over relying on exercise, let's say, and so then I was slowing down and not accomplishing as many cool things, and had to really look at my it's basically what brought me to somatics, was realizing, oh, exercise doesn't actually fix everything, and you can't just train your body to do what you want all the time. I've talked about this on this podcast before. So anyways, doing a lot of nervous system healing work too.

Sarah 27:22
And some of that was like requiring me to notice my body more, which was really intense, and I was starting to feel the impacts of doing the outdoor rec stuff in a overriding push through kind of way, and that just stopped feeling good once I started to come into Conscious awareness with of the sensations of that, it stopped feeling like tenable. So I wanted I backed way out of nervous system stuff or outdoor rec stuff that was stressful or scary while I did all that nervous system work. Okay. So all that to say 2022, summer, and we want to go on a trip, and we went into this really nice part of the like sub range of the Brooks Range. And let me just pause for a second, because the reason I'm telling you this story is that, for one I imagine we're on a walk together, and some of what you do with your friends is just like, listen to them tell stories, and hopefully find that, like enjoyable. I think it's like an oral tradition, way of connecting. And so hopefully there's something that feels, I don't know, nourishing or enjoyable, pleasant in your nervous system to hear me just chatter about myself. I don't know, sometimes I question this whole strategy, this whole thing. But anyways, some of me really enjoys it too. So maybe that's some of my, yeah, some of my astrological design or something. But thanks for, yeah, I do have gratitude for, like, being able to share my stories in this way and be seen and be connected to you like this. So I'm receiving a little bit of like, a vulnerability stretch, and also the sense of like, what a gift to be able to like, I share some experiences with you, share some of myself with you in this way, and just feeling the way, there's like a kind of a stretch in my chest when I connect with that part the vulnerable. Ability and the beauty of it.

Sarah 30:10
So we went to this new area of the Brooks Range. The wild thing was that this was 2022, I think. And I must have, like, been a little bit sick, or had the very beginnings of something, because when we got flown into this remote airstrip, the two of us, it's a wild place. Looks like the moon, almost. And I go in, and I'm a little bit under the weather, and I wake up the next morning just like so sick. And was tent bound for a day or two, and Luke had just, we just showed up on our backpacking trip, you know, and he was like, ready to go, so he went on some day hikes on his own. But then we saw a bear fairly close to camp, and so he decided he should probably stick sort of close ish. Anyways, eventually I was good enough to move and I and we did a little two day two or three day hike to some water to do this neat little pack raft float, and it was really beautiful water. And we swam, and we saw three cute little bears from a nice safe distance across the river, and hiked our way back. I was quite tired, but it was manageable. I was like getting over this thing, and then, yeah, eventually, I don't know where do I want to take this story? How many details do you want to hear? Because we got back to our base camp. And basically the idea of the trip we had created was to leave a bunch of stuff at the base camp, where at the air strip, where we flew in, and do some little hikes and loops from there, and then bump camp. So when we got back, we bumped camp. And then Luke got sick, and he we were he was so tired while we were moving camp, but we did find it like the coolest fossil that I think we've ever found before. He spotted it in an incredible place. I can't even believe he found it. And then we got to the next like to our camp, and we were tent down there for a few days then because he was sick and it was also storming, so I just napped and read, and it was kind of awesome. There was something funny that happened on that little stay, though, because the we've been sending in reach messages out to friends and family regularly, and we were in the tent and sent a message, and it makes A little chirp sound when it goes chirp, chirp. It's like a bird sound, kind of but anyways, the in reach little messaging device makes that sound when the message goes out via satellite. And after the chirp, we heard like a crashing in the bushes outside of the tent, and we unzip the tent because it was raining, so we were all zipped in, and we saw a bear, just like running back away from the tent up a hill, and like The opposite direction from us, but the wild thing we had been in the tent, and I hope you can hear it in my voice, because in the Arctic, we've had the best. I know it's not always true, but generally, bear experiences in the Arctic are very like wild because bears kind of don't want anything to do with humans. Generally, they haven't learned that humans are food sources. So they generally have the like conditioning of like, oh shit. Like, get out of I'm out of here most of the time, as long as you don't like surprise them or something, so I hope you can hear me as I tell the story. This is, like, very funny, surprising, unique thing, but not super scary, especially since it was running away. And one thing that is wild about it, to me is that it's an example of. How if that inreach hadn't chirped, right, then this bear would have probably just walked past. We would have never known. And how many of times

Sarah 35:10
is there like wildlife around us in Alaska on these kind of trips and they just leave us alone and we would never know. It's pretty neat. I'm guessing that lots of people find that intimidating, or like you haven't experienced that enough in the way that I have to feel like that's magical to have, like a trust in, I think what it is, is a trust in the in my place, in the ecosystem, and, yeah, that's like generally that there's like a safe enough kind of feeling, being outside in nature. It's actually, I hadn't really thought about that before, but that's a real privilege to be able to feel, I think, to have had those kind of experiences, to be able to have that sense of like capability and like relationship with nature And animals, I do really feel lucky to have that. So, yeah, what else from that story? So after Luke felt better, which was, took a couple of days, then we I remember we were wondering if we had covid and we had a bunch of Swedish Fish. No, what are the ones from Trader Joe's called Scandinavian swimmers? We had a bunch of Scandinavian swimmers, by my recollection, and were joking that they were covid tests, because if we could still taste the flavor of them, we probably didn't have covid, though we did after we got back from the trip take covid tests because we didn't have them with us in our backpacks and so and I was negative, but Luke's was positive, and so that was maybe a week or 10 days after he was sick. So who knows? I wonder if we didn't have covid, which would make sense why I was so tired. Okay, so after Luke was got back moving, which if we really had covid, it was really impressive that we did what we ended up doing. But we bailed on the other hiking loops we were going to do because we'd used up all of our spare days in tents, and we started working our way out the Aggie river toward the no attack in Kotzebue, and that was on pack rafts, which was so cool. There was a bunch of neat memories from that. One was floating past some really huge chunks of off ice, and they were like canyoned, which is pretty cool. And they, yeah, what else to say about oh, there was a place where I was, again, sleeping in tents, and we had been like, sleeping in in the morning, I think, a little bit and in our tent, and all of a sudden there was like this sound of gravel, foot, foot falls on gravel, like someone's running on the gravel toward our tent. And we were not sure what the heck was going on. I startled, had a big, like adrenaline response this time, and opened up, picked our heads out of the tents some it wasn't raining, but there was a mother moose and her calf running down the riverbank at us toward, like down, down the side of the river. We were on, on this river gravel bar, and when we poked our heads out of the tents, they kind of spooked and started crossing the river. And swam across the river. And it was the cutest thing, because the.

Speaker 1 40:00
Little calf couldn't quite touch the whole way, so

Sarah 40:05
the mother started across, and then the calf started across, and then the calf started to kind of float downstream a little bit and but just a little bit, and it kept. It must have kept, like kicking his little leg under the water you couldn't see. But then it kept, but it kept making headway. And then it got to the edge and scrambled out of the water and shook its little self off. It was adorable. And then they kept running down river. You think they might have been, might be like a moose around or something that they were getting away from,

Speaker 1 40:39
very cool experience. Yeah, we floated out the river. It was beautiful. And we

Sarah 40:50
saw a couple groups of muskox, which is amazing thing to see. And then our friend, my friend, James. Hi, James and Hannah. Hi, Hannah and their other friend had a we're out on a boat on the no attack, and they picked us up and drove us to town, and we took showers and ate good food. And we're really glad we had a good trip. So the that was a really sweet trip, and I hope you enjoy the stories. I will include maybe some pictures, if you like to see any of those, and I just hope that we use this time when we're in spring and the seasons are changing and we're trying to help our bodies get into summer mode, to spend some time connecting with nature and the animals, noticing the beauty around us, doing something to protect these wild places and the people who take care of them, people who have relationships with them and think it's going to be a good summer. Hope you're making some plans about ways to have a really good summer and support yourself along the way. Let me know if I can support you in that, whether it's summer strong or nervous system stuff or this noticing practice. The other thing I am considering is a class I've wanted to teach for years, two of them, actually. One is a class on nervous system skills, or trauma informed skills for outdoor recreation leaders, how to build a trauma informed learning environment, which actually makes learning easier, and then also how to respond when things go wrong. So that's one class. And then the other idea that's been brewing for quite some time is sharing ways to use back country trips or nature time as a healing portal, connect with nature intentionally for healing or Bringing like nervous system practices into your outdoor time, that'd be really fun to share. I have a lot of strategies around that, so if you are interested in any of those, or anything else, please let me know. And how are you doing? We've been walking for a little while, and I've just been kind of chattering. Is there anything you want to know? You want to share? How's your body? I'm getting a little bit cold, to be honest. It's now

Speaker 1 44:25
nine here, and the sun is down. It's still totally daylight though. I mean, it's really wild how much sun we have and light.

Sarah 44:35
We're into long evenings already.

Unknown Speaker 44:40
And it's cold, though it's definitely still cold. I wish I could brought a hat

Sarah 44:52
my puffy jacket. So I am going to wrap this up. I hope that maybe we can take a few moments to slow down again and feel our feet and yeah, let the

Speaker 1 45:15
sensation of the feet and the ground come into relationship

Speaker 1 45:32
the feet feeling the ground and The ground coming up underneath to support the feet

Unknown Speaker 45:51
on some ice now, so It might sound different,

Speaker 1 45:58
and then maybe while you're still connected with your feet, or again,

Sarah 46:06
if you want to let that go and let the body just hold that in its own way, and see again, if there's something fun to notice and point out, is there a shape or a color,

Sarah 46:29
something Funny that you noticed that you're seeing right now? I

Sarah 46:45
color catching your eye. Yeah, look looking for a delight to point out and to share. Maybe you take a picture and send it to someone you care about, in a way, you know, the process of documenting, I have kind of mixed feelings about I'm curious what you notice about it in yourself, There is something really beautiful about taking in an experience that we're having with nature, any experience we're having in a tech free way, in a way that we're just taking it in through our senses and Then enjoying that being in the pleasure of that I

Sarah 47:44
and I also think there is something about the art that's created when we photograph something, when we're when we're really noticing beauty or uniqueness and looking to like photography as an art form, for sure, looking To notice it in a way that you can hold on to and share, because of the way I think about awe these days being something that happens inside the social nervous system, where we feel sensations in our own body, and then there is that impulse to share it with others in some way, and that sharing impulse can be our real relationship builder. Sharing things that we appreciate with others is a way that we kind of show them that we care, we were thinking about them. So I guess that answer, answer that question, is very individual, and my guess is that it's probably some of both for all of us, and maybe we lean in one direction or the other, and could use a nudge toward the other, whether it's a little bit more time holding an experience in a tech free way, or if there is a benefit in leaning into the sharing and the social nervous system and the relational connection that can commonly have a chance to share. Maybe best yet is when you're actually in person, walking with someone, and you get to actually share it in real time, in a sensory way, together, tech free and together. So the guest set is all wrapped. Itself around and do another pitch for planning some nice outdoor time with people you care about this summer so you can have those shared experiences of beauty and awe in real time. Okay, I'm walking on some really crunchy and slightly sketchy ice. So I am going to log off here. Thank you for going on a co regulation walk with me. It's been a real delight. I look forward to more. See you next time you.