Mindful Movement to Get You Outdoors: My conversation with the Active in Alaska Podcast

Interview Recap: Active in Alaska with Kendall

I recently joined Kendall on the Active in Alaska Podcast for a warm, energizing conversation about movement, mental health, and finding belonging in the outdoors. We talked about growing up in Alaska, tackling the Wilderness Classic, and how I’ve built a career blending fitness, nervous system regulation, and a deep love for this place.

We explored how strength is more than muscle—it’s emotional and nervous system resilience, and how outdoor culture can become more inclusive and compassionate. From interval workouts filmed in my living room to my evolving somatic work in Anchorage, we discussed creating supportive, choice-based movement spaces that meet people wherever they are.

Topics We Covered:
(0:15) Growing up in Alaska and finding my way into outdoor culture
(3:59) The Wilderness Classic and learning empowerment through challenge
(7:12) Building an inclusive, scalable approach to fitness
(10:16) Connecting movement with nervous system health
(15:00) Letting go of perfectionism in outdoor and wellness spaces
(20:00) “Measuring up from zero” and celebrating micro wins
(26:09) Taking the first steps toward movement and adventure
(30:00) The power of accountability and shared rhythm—even online

This was such a fun and meaningful conversation. Kendall’s curiosity and down-to-earth energy made it easy to share stories about the body, the mind, and the mountains.

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Here's the transcript if you prefer to read/skim! 

Kendall 0:15
Hey everybody. This is Kendall with our podcast called active in Alaska. I'm here with Sarah, and we're going to learn a lot about what she's got going on and how she's helping people. Helping people to get moving. So Sarah, tell people a little bit about yourself. Yeah, I am. I'm a lifelong Alaskan. I was born here in Soldotna and moved to Anchorage like seven years ago after living all over the state. And I am, I love Alaska. First off, excited to be here to talk with you and share our love for Alaska. I'm a fitness instructor. I do I'm a personal trainer, and I'm also a mental health therapist, and so my work combines mental, physical and outdoor rec, because I love to spend as much time as possible out on the land here in Alaska. Yeah, that's awesome. So okay, so born and raised in soda na. How did you get into this? You know, tell us your journey. How'd you get from soldat to Anchorage? Oh, well,

Sarah 1:08
yeah. So my folks are from like the Midwest, Ohio, Indiana area, and they got married and went on a road trip and ended up in soldatna and ran out of money and got summer jobs and decided to just stuck around and stayed there ever since they're here in Anchorage now. So I grew up with this sort of Midwestern approach to Alaska as a kid, which was we were canoeing and the on the canoe trails on the Kenai and doing some fishing on the Kenai River, but kind of just easy access things. And as I grew up and expanded my skills and saw what other like, more ambitious things people were doing around the state, I was really inspired to try to, like, learn how to do some more challenging hikes and bigger adventures around the state. So that brought me into,

Sarah 1:59
eventually working for the park service for a while, building trails. I spent some time in Denali doing that, and also in Skagway on the Chilkoot. And then those were summer jobs. So I needed, I needed a winter job to go along with that, right? So I started working in a gym in Skagway, in the rec center there, and working with, kind of complementing the summer outdoor time with the indoor winter cross training and learning about how to help the muscles be ready for the summer adventures. It's awesome. Yeah. And then that wove, that wove me into, like, wanting to learn more about the physical side of how we prepare ourselves for outdoor time.

Kendall 2:48
Awesome. So then, so about your business, kind of give us a rundown. Like, how did you get into it? I liked hearing that, you know, it started off as a kid. It makes a lot of sense that your parents instilled in you, and outdoorsmanship and being able to enjoy what Alaska has to offer. And I like that you even took it another step to wanting to educate yourself on ways that you can benefit not only summertime, but wintertime, which makes a lot of sense, because it's it's a beautiful place year round, and my struggle is in wintertime. Yeah, it's easy to do stuff. For me, it's easy to do more, to do stuff in the summer, fishing, hiking, that kind of thing. But I really want to get some good activities to keep me busy during the winter. So how did you get into the work aspect of what you're doing? You know, I get you on your journey. You wanted to educate yourself. How did you take that next step? But what was that next step like?

Sarah 3:42
Yeah, I was. It kind of picks up there in my 20s, when I was trying to challenge myself in the outdoors a little bit more, and the I had this idea, my brother and I ended up deciding to do the wilderness classic together, which is this self supported challenge, where they give you a starting place and an ending place, and they're like, good luck. Yeah, good do your best. And we did that in the winter. It must have been like 2007 or something like that. And it was incredibly challenging. It was on skis most of the time, through the wrangles, and incredibly physically challenging, also also emotionally challenging. But then we actually did finish it after seven days. And the the kind of empowerment that that gave me that like, oh my gosh, I thought this thing was, like, for the for the, like, really elite people, and, like, I just did it. So I broke through kind of a glass ceiling that I had for myself in that experience, and then that, the way that changed my outlook of what was possible for my life outside of the mountains, you know, also just regular life, made me think like, gosh, if everyone could have an empowering experience of the. Our body moving through nature that would change us all profoundly. And it doesn't have to be like a massive seven day wilderness ordeal. It can be everybody's experience of that is different. But though the way that being present with ourselves out in the mountains impacts us is I think that's true for everyone.

Kendall 5:22
Yeah, no, I love going up to flat top or going up to hatchers, and we did, God bless it. Is it? It's in Palmer? Is it lazy mountain? No, easy, not lazy mountain, but it's like it has stairs. Palmer hikes better, yeah, but it was so it was hard, but it was worth it, yeah? And afterwards, I slept good, you know, felt accomplished, and I think that's really important. So with your business, you're saying you're doing personal training,

Sarah 5:54
correct? Yeah, it's more in a group format these days, but Okay, yeah.

Kendall 5:58
And what is your focus? Are you doing more aerobic workouts? Are you doing weight training? What's do you do a mix like, what's a typical workout routine that you help people do?

Sarah 6:08
My work is primarily interval training. Okay, body weight. Okay. And I film the workouts in my living room here in Anchorage, and people stream them wherever they're at. So the idea is that it's like, really low need. You don't need many much for equipment. You can do it kind of anywhere. And the moves that we do, they replicate what you end up doing with your body outside, which is, like, weird stuff, right? Like, we're like, stepping up, but it's on an uneven like rock or something, or you're in the winter, you're like, trying to stay stable on slippery surfaces and moving in like lateral ways or cross body ways. It's like we do these. We asked our bodies to twist and to catch ourselves when we slip, and all of these non traditional movement patterns. And we get to kind of practice them in a controlled environment inside, so you have a little bit less stress in your nervous system, so you're more available for learning some of the muscle memory. I like that.

Kendall 7:10
Yeah, your groups that that participate online, do you have levels of of activity where you know, if someone is a little more elderly and they're looking for more low impact. You have a setup for them? Do you have something for, like, someone who's really trying to get their heart rate going? I mean, do you have varying degrees of it? How does

Sarah 7:29
that work? Yeah, totally. I'm glad you asked, because that's so important. This is, like, one of the foundational values that I have, is that I want to build an outdoor recreation culture where everyone's welcome, okay, and there's some really elite athletes in Alaska, and it's easy to compare ourselves to like these people who are crushing it all the time, and they need training too. So but I also want the people who are more like off the couch or recovering from an injury or just new to this stuff, to feel like there's a place for them. So the way we do it inside of the workouts is have a an option that I call mobility track, okay, which is the kind of basic level of each exercise. And we all start there, okay, because we all do need to, like, move slowly through the exercise and notice, like, what happens with your knee when you're moving like, okay, what can you hold this alignment, or does it get wobbly when you slow it down, there's, like, some subtle nuance that's helpful when we when we work at a less in, like cardio intense level, and slow things down, right? So that's the mobility side of things. And then there's these tiers. So then we go through the interval same exercise. Second interval, you have the option to up level it for those that want, or you stay that makes sense. And everybody has days where they stay on mobility track, because we sometimes need to just, like, move at a less intense pace. But then on the days you really want to go and go hard and crush it, then you can keep up leveling and end up at, like, a really more of a intense place.

Kendall 8:57
That's a great idea. I like that because you're giving people the option based on where they want to go. And, I mean, I never thought about that, but that's a cool way to do it, because you're doing the same workout, but you're increasing the intensity level if you want to. I like

Sarah 9:10
that. Okay, yeah, it's cool. And it's like, really choice based so everybody you can and it and the ideas like everyone's moving through different energy states and nervous system places on a regular basis. So some days you'll be there, and other days you'll be on mobility track, and it's all really neutral, because you there's benefits from all of it.

Kendall 9:29
So then, how often do you meet with people? Do you do any in person stuff? Or is it all virtual, like? I'm just curious of the setup, because I think it's a really cool you can meet people in their home. You meet people when it's convenient for

Sarah 9:40
them. Yeah, okay, that's it's been an evolution. So this, this work, this body of work, started when I was living in Valdez, and I was teaching it in person there. I was learning to back country ski at the time, and also working at the running the gym in town, and the workouts I was doing at the gym. I was like, oh gosh, this. Helping me a ton when I'm skiing and like, I'm able to keep up, at least on the climbs, because we would like be climbing with her skin on up the mountain on skis, because there's no lifts, right, right? So, so at least I could keep up. I wasn't a very good skier, so I'd crash a lot on the downhills. But even that, the strength that I had from the fitness classes helped me crash without getting hurt, and so that's really helpful. And the overlay between the workouts and what I was learning in the mountains started to feel really clear, so I started to tweak the workouts to even more closely align with outdoor rec movements so they have now what I have is a winter program that's called ski babes and a summer program that's called Summer strong, okay? And they're oriented towards sort of the What the What are, what the recreation of the season asks of our bodies. And it's, it's set up to be three times a week. So some people do, there's an option to do twice a week, but most, most of the time, it's like three times a week, 40 minute classes or so with these scalable options, and we train in six week cycles. So you kind of build up in difficulty over six weeks and then take a little break and then start again, another build cycle. Awesome.

Kendall 11:14
So if someone misses the class, do they have a recording they can go back and practice later. Are they able to keep practicing it? You know, let's say I signed up for a class and I really like it. I'm like, You know what? I'm gonna do this again. Can they like, how does that

Sarah 11:28
work? Yeah, yeah. So the this is the iteration that we're in right now, where it started in in person in Valdez, and then I put it online, and now they're pre recorded, okay? So now people can stream, stream them whenever they want, on our own schedule. That makes sense? Yeah, yeah. And I'm kind of iterating this now too, because I have this somatic nervous system work that is my current excitement. And so I'm about to start iterating that work in person, in Anchorage.

Kendall 11:56
I don't know what word you just said. Can you say that word again?

Kendall 11:58
It sounds like somatic, yeah. Somatic, somatic. What is somatic? Yeah, what is that?

Sarah 12:04
Somatic is the, is the way that the nervous system shows up in the body. Okay, so it's kind of like the way our emotions and our mental health transfer or are operated in in the body. So we're, we're working on helping our nervous system learn how to move through activation waves without getting stuck in, like, stuck in anxiety or stuck in, like no no motivation, but instead to be able to, like, move into something stressful or exciting and then also move back out of it smoothly. So we're going to try to learn how to practice that. I do that with my one on one clients in a therapy setting. But I'm going to try to practice, develop a way to do that inside of, like a, kind of, like a workout setting too.

Kendall 12:48
Wow, that sounds kind of cool, because it's like you're, you're doing workouts that help the nervous system move better, and, yeah, help wake it up a little bit and make it more functional.

Sarah 12:59
Yeah, exactly. And that's kind of that's woven into ski babes, and some are strong already, because with my mental health background, I'm like, so conscious of the way that the movement, wellness world and the outer rec world can have this kind of toxic perfectionism to it. And this, like, if you're not, like, going as hard as possible, you're not, doesn't even count. There's like, a lot of pressure in there. And so these things that we know are good for us, like being outside and moving, sometimes they can make us feel bad about ourselves if we're not performing to it at a certain level. So we're always working on that to like noticing what comes up when you're when you're putting stress on your body inside of an interval, and how we can support ourselves a little better and be more gentle with ourselves and each other.

Kendall 13:47
That is so important, gentleness but persistent. So I want to find out more about the mental health aspect of it, because I think that's such a overlooked piece of health and wellness in general. But we're going to take a quick commercial break. Thank you guys for tuning in. We'll be back in a second. This is Kendall with active in Alaska. Hey, we're back. This is Kendall with active in Alaska, and I'm here with Sarah, and we're going to talk a little bit more about her business, how she gets people moving. And so one thing that you mentioned was your mental health background. I have a degree in psychology. I've worked in the field in the past. For like, 13 years, I've seen the gamut, and I think that that's such a piece that's overlooked when it comes to physical health, is, how is your mind connected to it? And So explain to me, I guess, how you've incorporated your knowledge from mental health into workouts to help people get rocking and roll and stay going, you know,

Sarah 14:40
yeah, well, I mean, that has a personal route to it too, because I too have also, I have this social work degree, so I have the mental health like professional background, but I also personally have struggled with depression and anxiety for much of my life, though, with current this. Deals I've been building recently. It's like, way more manageable and like, what a relief for that, thank goodness. But the like, I for sure, found when I was getting into harder outdoor recreation situations that were challenging physically, and also, you know, there's some like actual, real, tangible risks that you're navigating in the world when we're outside, whether like some real safety risks. So I was we know when you're under those sorts of real life stressors, and if you have a predisposition toward, like a harsh inner critic, for example, which was something that I have, was navigating a lot, what's wrong with you? Why can't you keep up with these other people? It can get really, like, harsh inside when you're out experiencing, you know, something that could be really beautiful, but the internal experience might not be that. Yeah, and then I could see layers of that inside of workouts to where you know, either you're feeling like, what's wrong with me yesterday, I could do this, and today I'm slow or frustrated with injuries or things like that. So there's, there's ways that, like the mental health, for sure, is there's so much ableism and like the idea that our bodies should be able to function perfectly in order to be good enough inside of our like wellness culture. So I think that's a lot of what we're working against in these situations, too. So it basically just felt really important to me to weave these these worlds together.

Kendall 16:37
Yeah, no, that's and, you know, I think that neglecting that part is what gets people or what keeps people from continuing. Because I've seen a lot of people, me included, get really excited and get hyped up for the first couple steps and make the first couple steps, but then life happens and and having the commitment, having a dedication. And, like you said, the self critic, there's some times where that self critic is super beneficial for me, where I where I'm thankful that, you know, I didn't feel like getting up and going, I didn't I wanted to sit here and watch TV, and then Chris, like, really, you know, like, it's a beautiful day, get out and do something. So there are times where it's almost encouraging, slash, like, you know, so I've, I found a way, personally, to not let it go so far. I don't, I don't let I'm not gonna beat myself up, but I will allow myself to get motivated for that extra push to say, You know what, I do need to get out if it makes sense, if it's logical, and if it's right and positive, I harken to that more than beating me up or beating me down, yeah, you know. And so I found a way to, like, push away the stuff that says, oh, you know, because you this, you're not doing this or, you know, and I focus more on, come on, man. You got this, that kind of motivator, yeah, you know. And I love that you got this. Yeah, come on, get up, do something. And another weird phenomenon, and I got a couple more questions to ask you, is, I've noticed so you know, me and my wife would do a hike, and then we get finished, I get back in the car, and it's like, did we just do that? I know we did. I know we walked around, but it seems like the time just, you know, the physical body feels a little bit but it's almost like a sentiment of, it happened so quick, but in the moment you're walking, everything's going but now it's in the car, it's like, we just walked two miles and whatever, whatever, and it's over, you know. So I kind of like that aspect of, once it's done, it's done that, you know, you just got to get it done. And once you get on the other side of it, it's almost, it doesn't hurt that bad. But there's just, there's a side of there was a side of me that, when I first got started, like, oh, man, this is gonna hurt. We got to go here. Gotta do this. But once I get through it, and I'm finished, and I look back and I'm like, That wasn't bad at all, right, you know? Yeah. So I've been paying attention to that, yeah, and using that as when I first get started, to remind myself, you know what, when I get to the end of this, I'm gonna look back and say, You know what, this was not nearly as bad as I thought. Yeah. So it's kind of tricking myself a little bit.

Sarah 19:18
I know that's a great strategy, though, because it's like, starting to anchor the after, like how I'm going to feel after that. That works for the outdoor time and the workouts, like I if you start to really land the good feelings of accomplishment and satisfaction and yeah, all that in the after, your body starts to believe that, like that gets associated or coupled with the with the experience itself, and then it's easier when you're looking forward to jump to like that, I'm going to be in this aft, really nice after place, yeah, instead of, I'm going to be in, like,

Kendall 19:50
the the pain that's, that's the fear, right? Pain, yeah,

Sarah 19:54
you know. Or uncertainty, the like, discomfort, yeah, all that, yeah.

Kendall 19:58
And I, like. To come against it, and I think it's important. So I want to get more into the mental health parts, part of it, because I love that you have that background. What? How have you seen the workouts affect people's mental health? I'm assuming you've seen maybe someone who was a little bit depressed or struggling, or maybe life was beating them up. They started your program, and when they got through it, what? What does that look like? You know, what? Kind of because I know the mind is a huge piece of this, and I'm assuming, since you've been working in this field for a while, you've seen people who have been struggling finish their workout and like, Wow, I feel so much better. Yeah, yeah. So kind of tell me a little bit about that process.

Sarah 20:38
Yeah, I think they're, they're, I mean, there's like the micro wins that happen every time we finish an interval, every time we finish a warm up, every and then there's the workout that's like a little bit of a bigger win. And then if you stick with a whole six weeks of workouts, then there's like a bigger win there. But the we're really trying to emphasize that, like every little piece of this, there's all the little wins along the way, and we're trying, and if you teach yourself to celebrate and acknowledge those little steps along the way, then you're not having to, like, wait for some outcome way down the road. And I think those little pieces have helped. So I've so I've seen people really return to that anchor of like, I'm doing it. I'm not. It's, I'm It's a strategy that I call measure up from zero, which means, like, from zero, you're, like, already climbing. Look at that. You've already done it, a warm up. You've done a Yeah, exactly. You got out of the car then. So these are, instead of the measure down from 100% like that. That's often what we do on a default is like, we're like, I'm this is how I am, then perfect. But if we can teach ourselves to measure up from zero, then it's a really encouraging way of noticing what all the little things that you have done along the way. And I just had someone I was talking with a client this week who was really had before, had felt like a lot of shame around getting out of breath and just being like, why am I like this? It's like, and had the impression that she was the only one who was like, there was something wrong with her that she was getting out of breath. And said that after being in these workouts for a while, that was one of the things that she learned was like, everybody gets out of breath. This is, like, part of it really normal. Oh yeah. So there's some normalizing. There's some breaking down of, like, the we call it workout perfectionism, where there's the expectation of doing everything at 100% we're, like, letting that go. All of these, like, kind of reframes for how we are with ourselves. Feels like that. It all builds toward helping people feel like I'm in a body that's a good body, no matter where it's at. I can there's room for improvement always, and there's also a lot that I've already done, and can sort of feel, feel that capacity build as the strength builds,

Kendall 22:59
right? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And as far as age ranges, what's the youngest? I mean, I know the kids got to be able to follow along and all that. But what's what's the youngest? And then what is oldest? I like to find out kind of your range of folks that you help out. As far as get healthy,

Sarah 23:15
yeah, I have so the youngest is probably some some people's kids end up, like, jumping in with them because, because it's like, or dad, that's cool about doing an at home workout is it's like, for parents or people with really full lives there, they can do it at home and model for their kids that, like, they too are like, putting some effort into, yeah, into taking care of themselves, and then it's maybe a fun family affair, and the kids jump in for a little bit. I have a neighbor whose kid is in early tweens, and she calls me her mom's gym teacher. Nice, sorry. Oh, that's funny. I like that. It's like we have gym teachers too as adults. And she jumps in sometimes with her mom to the workouts. And then the upper range is some folks in their 70s.

Kendall 24:09
Okay, wow. So I'm curious, because in my mind, I'm thinking of punch, punch, kick. I don't know why. I don't know because

Sarah 24:19
you're a martial arts, and

Kendall 24:21
I'm thinking on some typo or some, like, 90s workout routine with the spandex and all the Hey, hey, punch kid, you know, hit me to like, what's, what's your workout style? Is it interval training, or is it aerobic? Like, what's, what do you normally do? As far as kind of an overall exercise routine that you imply,

Sarah 24:42
yeah, yeah. It's called mindful interval training. Okay, I'm calling it so because we're we're doing a lot of tracking of the body, of the alignment and of the mental state while we're doing it. So, but it is interval training, and we're playing with the. Different variations on lunges, like weird lunges that might be kind of like the ones you'd find yourself doing on the trail, and some core work with planks and V sits. And so we'll, we'll do a series of, like, kind of full body intervals. And then there's a section of the workout that's focused on core. There's a section focused on upper body, and then there's one that's called the max interval, which is another one of those, like full body and probably pretty leg focused exercises in a, in a, like a interval series. And that's the option to, like, really go for it if you want to, because we just pick one, one exercise and do it a bunch of times.

Kendall 25:42
Yeah, that's the way to go. I mean, your body gets used to it. You get it's fine tuned, and that's the way of martial arts. Yeah. You know, everyone wants to, like, do the fast version, but the basics, and doing them over and over again is the foundation to any, anybody who's good at anything realistically. It's true, you know? Yeah. So for people who are looking to take the first step, I love this question, because I always get the coolest answers. You know? They're kind of wanting to get out, wanting to get active, and they want to take the first step. What do you recommend for someone who is looking to like, I said, Get off the couch, get off the phone, and take some meaningful steps towards their mental health, physical health. What would you recommend?

Sarah 26:30
Yeah, well, I like that. We've talked about measure it from zero already, because it feels really applicable in this situation, because it really like, outdoors is anywhere outside your door. So I think we can, like, lower the bar way down and be like, a walk around the block is a great way to spend some time outside. Sitting out on the porch and having a lemonade is a also a really great way to be outside. So the standards, you know, whatever we kind of think about as, like, good enough. Let's, like, wipe that away and think about instead, what we what is available, and what's the first, easiest step. And then once you've had some made some groundwork, you know, made a couple steps in that way, then maybe you start thinking about where, like a new place that you might want to go and get out into the woods a little bit. And you know, every time you're doing something, when you're new, every time you're taking a step like that, you're you're putting your body through a learning experience that is a nervous system challenge. Do I have the right shoes for it? Do I have the right gear? Did I remember the bear spray? There's like so many things that after you've done it for a while, you start to do those on autopilot, but at the beginning, you're, you're really having to learn a lot every step. So acknowledging that each of those steps is really something is is really great. And then, of course, you know, because I'm a trainer, I I will speak to that too, because it can really help to have a little bit of strength and balance ability on board before we're getting out onto more challenging trails. It's way more fun to be outside if you have some strength and you're not just like, oh my god, this sucks. Oh yeah. I mean, we all have those phases at the beginning of a season where it's like, you got to get your fitness back, and it is so much more pleasant after you're through that you've got to so even just a couple weeks of like workouts that are specific to this can make a really big difference.

Kendall 28:26
Yeah, yeah. And I think you really touched on another piece that I was going to ask you was accountability. And you know, me and the buddies were doing a 75 day challenge, 75 push ups for 75 days kind of thing. And it was so helpful that I'm using it in other things. I got a student in Montana who is training, and we're doing 50 techniques a day, 50 of the same so practicing one, move, 123, 25 on one side, 25 on the other side. And so it's a small thing, but every day he texts me, 25 done, and I'm like, oh goodness, I gotta get up and go, you know, and I go and find a little room that nobody's using and practice my technique. But I love it, because now we are holding each other accountable. And there are times when I'm helping to motivate him, and then vice versa, so and then that's why I feel like with your workout routines. You're helping people to gain accountability, and because it's hard to necessarily do it by yourself, you know, so how important do you think accountability is, and what, how have you seen that really transform people's workout journeys?

Sarah 29:36
Yeah, you know, humans were social creatures. It's one of the things I've, like, really deepened into with this nervous system work. We're like, we've evolved to do this in community or with others. And, you know, everybody has a different relationship with that. Some people have, like, really had a lot of trauma through other humans. And so maybe they are, like, more so kind of a solo operator for a little while, but it can. Help a lot to be either partnering with somebody on the same journey, or to have a coach to help, like, just take the mental load off of figuring out what you're going to do. So you just, like, have it there, and then there's a co regulating experience of moving our bodies together, even through a video. There's like, a way that lands in the nervous system is, like, a little bit of safety there so that can make it just a little bit more accessible. When you're, you know, there's so many barriers to getting going with something

Kendall 30:28
I never thought about that the online connection, like you're connecting, it's a similar when, like dancing in, like line dancing, where everyone line dancing together, there's a vibe where, like, Hey, we're all doing this together. You know, even the same thing with Kung Fu, when we're doing forums and we're all in unison, there's a certain vibe that I didn't think about, yeah,

Sarah 30:51
we call it shared rhythm. And it's one of those, like, it's like a way of nourishing the nervous system to be in shared rhythm with other people, yeah?

Kendall 30:58
And you feel connected, yeah? I mean, you really are, yeah, because you're, I never thought about that. That's pretty because people say, Oh, I don't want to train online, but it's like, no, there's still value, because there is a stigma of, I want to be in person. And that is one thing that was kind of thankful with the covid thing was that we stretched the bounds of technology and and the virtual world, and we, to me, were able to incorporate more of how it's, how it can be used and benefit us. Yeah, and so I think it's super important that you're like you broke down, you can still connect, even though you could be here in Alaska and you could be working with people in Atlanta, and are you mostly relegated to Alaska? Are you open to other people from other states?

Sarah 31:47
I'm open, for sure. I mean, it's a program that was born and raised in Alaska, and it's really, like, really works for the Alaska personality and the Alaska type of recreation good. But there are so so I've got a it's about two thirds Alaskan right now, and about a third of other folks that are in the LA lower 48 or international.

Kendall 32:07
I feel like we could go on for a lot longer. I like four other questions that I want to ask, but we're getting really close to time, and I want people to know where to find you. So where can people find you your socials, give them the deets so they know where to look you up. And if they want to kind of do a workout with you, they can find you.

Sarah 32:22
Yeah, if you are on social media, my Instagram is my name, Sarah M, his stand.

Kendall 32:29
Okay, spell his stand for me, please. H, i s t, a, n, d, oh, okay, his stand, his stand. Hey, I like that. That's easy to remember now, yeah, yeah.

Sarah 32:38
And I share a lot of like, my adventures and what I love about Alaska there. So that's a fun place to just like, collaborate on our mutual love for Alaska outdoors. And the website is mind and mountain, okay. Business Name, mind and mountain and.co

Kendall 32:56
so and is spelled out, yes. Okay, so mind and mountain.co Yep, okay, yeah. It's so great to meet you, and I'm so excited. Did you guys got to hear about Sarah and all the wonderful things she's doing? So check out mind and mountain.co to find out more information. This is Kendall with active in Alaska. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Keep moving.